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- December 7, 2019 at 3:47 pm #105973
Mountaineers Unprepared, Outtoughed In Garden Meeting With St. John’s NEW YORK — West Virginia’s players knew it was coming. Its head coach knew it w
[See the full post at: Mountaineers Unprepared, Outtoughed In Garden Meeting With St. John’s]December 7, 2019 at 5:02 pm #105992
Two thought I had during this game….
1–We looked like past opponents trying to move the ball against Jevon Carter and teammates.
2–Our team might have been more excited about visiting Madison Square Garden than playing St. John’s, reminding we did the same last season when
enjoyed the trip to Europe and then fell with a thud against Texas A&M.
Maybe they’ll grow up.December 8, 2019 at 9:53 am #106038
Unprepared and Outtoughed. So, attitude once again appears to be a problem. Culver’s comment struck me when he said we found out we’re not as good as we think we are. In the seven games we won, I thought we looked very much like an average team, not a good one. Where did the players get the idea that they were good? What I’ve seen so far is a team that will be fortunate to finish 5th or 6th in the Big 12. Has anyone else seen something different?December 8, 2019 at 10:21 am #106039
I don’t want to overreact to one loss, and I don’t think this is a case of uncaring or bad attitudes. But WVU was overwhelmed by SJU’s on-ball pressure.December 8, 2019 at 10:32 am #106040
St John”s athleticism and quickness as well as its defensive skills were the difference in this game! We’re going to face the quickness disadvantage in many games of the future and it will be a Challange to the coaches to develop a system to deal with it! Just the fact that they shot 27 to our 12 foul shots is indicative of style! Lack of quickness is a problem on defense that goes along with technique problems! But, we still could have won that game if a few of the one footers would have dropped! It’s going to be an interesting year!December 8, 2019 at 12:30 pm #106050
We definitely have a problem against quickness….. maybe our personnel lends itself to more zone DDecember 8, 2019 at 2:55 pm #106059
WVU should have won this game walking away. But they didn’t. They played like girls and they looked like girls–and I’m not afraid to post it, because it’s the TRUTH.
EVERY game matters. Hope the team gets that message–and gets their HEADS into games, because their athleticism will only take them so far.December 8, 2019 at 5:45 pm #106067
Put game in the hands of the big guys and they fumbled it away.December 8, 2019 at 9:19 pm #106072
In addition to the poor ft shooting, Oscar misses 2 cherries and DC’s late TO after securing a rebound in the lane, instead of going up with the ball he puts the ball on the floor and SJU knocks it away…..aaarrrgghh ! So, even as bad as we played, we woulda coulda shoulda won this game. Hopefully a great lesson was learned from this game. I never for 1 minute expected us to go undefeated but we just don’t have the room to lose games that we clearly should win.December 9, 2019 at 9:45 am #106100
Well, I’ll say one more thing about attitude problems, and then I’ll let it go. If you can’t get fired up to play a game in Madison Square Garden, the most famous sports venue in the country, then when will you get fired up? And when we use words like outtoughed, that’s an attitude problem, not a talent problem. BTW, I agree that this team isn’t quick enough to play primarily a man defense. We should play primarily a zone defense. I’ve seen two games in person so far–Akron and Rhode Island–and I left the Coliseum after both games feeling worried about our defense. If Akron can put up 84 on us, imagine what Kansas will do.December 9, 2019 at 11:07 am #106110
Maybe I used the wrong word. In saying “outtoughed” I meant that St. John’s defended aggressively, got in WVU’s face, and swiped at every ball within reach. WVU did not respond with toughness of its own. It didn’t grab the ball aggressively. It didn’t hold the ball firmly in traffic. There were a few moments of complaining to officials rather than playing on. Playing against teams that contest everything, your own movements and reactions are affected. You have to be calm and not frantic, which WVU was at times. Is that a talent? Or a developed skill?
I think WVU was excited to play the game in the Garden. But their preparation didn’t show it. Maybe that all falls under the attitude umbrealla, but I wanted to clarify that I don’t think the attitude on this team is anything like last year’s. WVU clearly had a bad couple of practices and didn’t approach the game the right way, but I don’t think it was because they didn’t care.
Anyway, good points and discussion here. Really like getting everyone’s perspective.
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