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  • in reply to: UPDATED: Koenning’s Departure From WVU Announced #119776

    It does seem a little odd to me that Koenning would not have had this issue blow up on him sometime in his past.  And by this I don’t mean occur.  I mean blow up.  KK speculates, in his response to Tony, that the investigation may have “found some additional circumstances in Koenning’s background”.

    Whatever direction we may think our culture/society is moving in, for good or ill, it did not start the journey this year.  It has been going on for decades.  Which covers all of Koenning’s coaching career.

    To quote Forest Gump, “And that’s all I have to say about that.”

    in reply to: What’s Next For WVU Defense? #119627

    Has Koenning been utilizing the same defense as he installed at WVU for an extended period of time?  If so has he produced any successful like minded defensive coaches within the college ranks who are either ready to step up to a coordinator’s position or move up from a coordinator’s position at a lower level to a power 5 level?

    But I think they should hire a minority candidate from outside the program.  And if they could also satisfy the above criteria it would be so much the better for me (from a football philosophy perspective).

    in reply to: UPDATED: Koenning’s Departure From WVU Announced #119626

    The old model of coaching is going the way of the dinosaur, for good or bad.  Traditionally coaches have been not only teachers and schemers but also motivators.  And in the past the motivation techniques have been all over the map.  Some of the most legendary coaches used all kinds of techniques to get the most out of their players.  From getting the players to hate the coach, to gentle words of encouragement, and everything in between.  Frequently done based on their assessment on what would work best with that particular player.

    But I do not think that will be successful in the modern age.  Going forward they will teach technique, schemes, and assess the talent available to execute the technique and schemes.  It will be up to the players to provide their own motivation and to motivate their teammates.  I believe that model can work if you can recruit players who are internally motivated.  And if the coaches do not possess characteristics that will ultimately demotivate the players.

    Another variable to complicate the recruitment process but there will be coaches who will be successful.  Time will tell whether the ultimate product will be same, better, or worse.

    Sheperdstown,

    The number of individuals that have this virus is not determined by the number of tests you do.

    Obviously.

    But the % of positives you obtain in your sample is not necessarily an accurate representation of the actual number of positives within the total population, though you imply otherwise.  If the % of positives obtained by testing last week is not an accurate indication of the total population, and the % of positives obtained by testing this week is also not an accurate indication of the total population, then it is not possible to draw meaningful conclusions by comparing two imprecise pieces of data.  It may be the best data we have, does not mean it is good data or that the limitations of the data are being adequately described/reported.

    Just a general interest in their condition.  Have not yet read the Adrian article but will.

    But the % rate can be misleading in my estimation.  If you tested 5 people out of 400 and only 3 would test positive your chances of choosing one of those 3 would be pretty small.  But if you test 100 out of the 4oo your chances of choosing one of those 3 increases but still may not be high.  Increase the number of tests to 150, or 200, and that chance increases again.  Your % in example one may be zero and may be low in the subsequent examples but may not be zero.  Did the rate of infection increase?  Or just the probability of finding a positive?

    Still lots of uncertainty surrounding this virus and everyone needs to evaluate the degree of risk they find acceptable for their own situation.  That does not mean if your risk tolerance is greater than others you do not need to show restraint around others.  However, if your risk tolerance is low you need to isolate yourself as much as possible, not depend on others to reduce your risk.

    Kevin,

    Again, if possible, any info you can provide on their status, football and/or basketball, would be appreciated.  Not identification, but symptoms, fever (if any), duration, general overall feeling, etc.  I think the number of confirmed cases in the US is being placed at around 2.5 million, and if you assume the US population is approximately 325 million, then that means for any random gathering of 400 people about 3 would have had COVID.  That still means for most people they probably do not know many who have had the illness and may not know anyone who has had the illness.  So first hand information about how people are faring is not easy to come by.  Thanks.

    in reply to: Neal Brown Addresses Kerry Martin’s Allegations #118760

    Not all conservatives are tolerant.  Not all conservatives are intolerant.  Not all liberals are tolerant.  Not all liberals are intolerant.  Sort of a stupid thing to consider.

    But here is something to consider.  When I was in high school my Problems in Democracy teacher had an expression she seemed to repeat, seemed like everyday, but maybe it was only once a week.  When discussions in class about current issues or philosophy would reach an impasse she would end the discussion by saying “I may not agree with what you say but I will fight to the death to defend your right to say it.”  She was conservative and she meant it.

    And I believe that sentiment is much more likely to be found today in conservatives than liberals, even when it comes to protecting liberals right to free speech, though once upon a time I think it was as likely to be found in either outlook.  To paraphrase Orwell I think liberals today are more likely to say something like “all political speech is protected speech, but some political speech is more protected than others”.  Actually I think they are saying that on the college campuses.

    in reply to: More To Come On This… #118667

    I think Jeff makes good points in his 1st 2 paragraphs.  But I also think that you could see the world completely differently than Jeff does and still think that sexist and bigoted bosses are a bad thing.  Unfortunately, too many people in today’s society think that if you do not agree completely with Jeff you are incapable of being against sexist and bigoted bosses.

    I would take exception with Jeff’s use of the word “all” in his 1st 2 paragraphs.  There is no doubt in my mind that those standards are selectively applied, often depending on what your other beliefs are.

    Lastly, I have already voiced my disagreement that biases can, and do, impact grades students receive when the grade is based on the subjective interpretation of the material submitted.   That seems like a no brainer to me.  No offense intended.  Perhaps this suggestion is just a relic of a former time, but we may have to agree to disagree about that one.

    One professor, taken in isolation, may not be able to indoctrinate a student.  Many professors, taken over many hours of contact per week, over several years, may start to have an impact.  And that influence does not begin only in college.  It happens thru the prior years of education as well.

    in reply to: More To Come On This… #118659

    I agree with WVFaninMi.  There may be right or wrong answers in math and science, at least as it relates to our current state of knowledge, but the soft sciences are full of subjective subjects and answers.  There are certainly abuses going on in those situations that are not so easily resolved due to how our education system has evolved over time.  Still, I do not think that a coach and a professor have exactly the same relationship status that exists between a professor and a student.

    in reply to: More To Come On This… #118628

    Butler, do not read anything into my comments as to my opinion(s) as to the overall situation.  But, if you are a student taking classes as an undergrad, and you have a problem with a professor, there is likely an alternative path available.  Perhaps substituting a different class for the one in question, perhaps switching to another professor teaching the same class, maybe an online alternative.  Especially if the problem was “serious” enough in the eyes of the department/administration to think the alternative was in the best interests of all concerned.  But there really is no alternative for an athlete.  It is not like they could switch to the “other” football team at the University.  Not exactly apples to apples but coaches are not exactly analogous to professors.  But professors across campuses through out our country are totally out of control.  No easy solutions there either.

    in reply to: Second WVU Football Player Tests Positive for COVID-19 #118458

    Kevin/Greg – would be nice if some information could be reported about the condition of the WVU players testing positive.  I realize privacy laws prevent releasing the names of the players but knowing who they are is not important or necessary.  But knowing their condition would be beneficial in practical terms.  To this point in time I personally do not know, directly, a single person who is known to have been infected, at least that I know well enough to talk to.  I have a friend from Indy whose son tested positive but I rarely even get to talk to their son in person, never any other way.  Knowing what their symptoms are/were, how long they lasted, fever (and how high) if present, hospitalized if that occurred, would all be of interest to us as just regular people let alone as fans.  Any chance you can do at least that much?

    in reply to: Knapper To EKU #115866

    that could be the criteria.  if you move down you are eligible immediately.  If you move up or move laterally then you have to sit out a year.

    I have no problem with a player with (likely) limited ability trying to prove themselves on a big stage.  And, when it becomes apparent they have insufficient ability, moving down so they have a greater chance of playing seems only fair to the player.  otherwise they are simply practice fodder for the university.  But having to sit out for a year with an up or lateral move means you need to think carefully about your initial decision.  Admittedly difficult for young players but not unreasonable to require them to be mature about that decision or face the consequences.  But probably will not fly in today’s society.

    in reply to: You old timers will appreciate this #115520

    Late to the conversation, been busy with projects at the house.  I was at the game as well, though my student days were already well in the rear view mirror by that time.  WVU was a big underdog in that game.  Made the victory all the more satisfying.  Lots of great memories from the play but, once it was clear WVU was going to win, my favorite memory was being up in the stands, WVU fans staying until the glorious end, the Florida fans gone well before the end of the game, and the WVU band playing “Elvira” almost nonstop down the stretch and all the WVU fans singing along.  It was loud and pure joy for me.

    Shepherdstown, it certainly seems the fatality rate is higher compared to “regular” flu.  But that statistic needs to be appreciated in light of what we do not know.  The truth is we do not know what the actual fatality rate is because we do not know what the infection rate is.  At the John Hopkins Covid 19 tracker website the latest information indicates just under 128,000 confirmed cases worldwide with just over 4700 deaths and just over 68,300 cases recovered.  The difference between those is the number of cases that are still active.  All of those numbers are likely under reported to the extent we cannot put much stock into what they are telling us.

    One thing that seems to be strangely missing, in all the reporting, is much information on the confirmed cases that have recovered.  How sick were they?  How sick did they consider themselves?  What kind of fevers were they running?  How long did those symptoms last?  Caution is needed.  But, for me, it is not so much the number of deaths that I want to know about, but what was it like to get sick and recover.  That will guide me a lot in how I evaluate my own behavior.  And that information is strangely not very available.

    in reply to: Post Season Rotation #114198

    but can we limit their combined production while also not allowing their 2nd tier players to make up the deficient?  that will tell the tale, imo.  I do not think we can outscore them in a high scoring game (obviously could be wrong) but like our chances better of outscoring them in a lower scoring game.

    in reply to: Post Season Rotation #114112

    Some interesting observations regarding OK based on their final season stats.  They have 5 players who average between 28 and 33 minutes per game, with an average of 31.5 for those 5.  They have one sub who averages about 17 minutes a game and 3 others who all average right around 10 minutes per game.  The time averages are a bit misleading because Doolittle missed a couple of games which increased the court time some for those other players.

    Those last 3 meaningful subs on their roster are all listed as forwards and contributed about 8 ppg to their game total of around 70 ppg.  So most of their points come from their primary 6 man rotation with the big 3 of Doolittle, Manek, and Reeves combining for about 45 ppg while the “2nd” group of 3 contributes about 19 ppg.  Again, Doolittle missing a couple of games skews those averages just a bit.

    Obviously the 1st key to beating OK is to limit the damage done by their big 3.  But just as important, imo, is making sure that if you limit 1 or 2 of them you don’t allow the others to make up the difference.  They averaged about 70 ppg this season and averaged that same amount against us in our 2 losses to them.  So we have to hold down their scoring.  How much?  Obviously depends on how we are scoring but I would feel much better about our chances if we could hold them to 60 for the game.  If we hold the big 3 to a combined 35 then we have to hold the other 6 to a combined 25.  Or something of that nature.  If the big 3 score more the other 6 have to score less.

    Another problem OK presents is they have a number of players in the 6′-5″ range, including Reeves.  So match up problems abound.  Who do we put on Manek and Doolittle?  I do not think I like Oscar on either of those 2 but others here may be able to convince me I am wrong to think that.  So that means, to me, that Gabe and Derrick will probably have to shoulder most of the load on those 2 with maybe some relief from Haley and Matthews.  But can Matthews handle that assignment?  I do not really have a good answer for that.  What about Reeves?  I think our best bet is McBride with, again, relief from both Haley and Harler.  But it certainly looks like we are going to need outstanding efforts and performances from Gabe and Derrick and scoring from McBride, Haley, Sherman, and McNeil.  It will be interesting to see how Oscar and Matthews are worked into our rotation against OK.  Playing tough defense from our (perhaps) 9 man rotation on their primarily 6 man rotation should work to our advantage.  But our 9 may not always match up well with their 6.

    in reply to: Post Season Rotation #114060

    an open shot has a better chance of going in than a contested shot.  But some days you can’t put it in if you are the only one on the court and other days you can be blindfolded and it goes in.  But I wasn’t necessarily thinking of OU with my comment.  In our recent games against TT, OKState, UT, and TCU, they all did some things that were uncharacteristic of their typical performance.  Some of that, rightfully so, got lost in the anguish resulting from our own poor play.  But Reeves hit for 41 (I think) this past Saturday, Mannic (sp?) hit for 31 the week before, and Doolittle I believe was a 1st team all B12 selection.  But maybe they will all crap the bed against us come this Thursday.  I could live with that.

    in reply to: Post Season Rotation #114057

    Oldguy, I think you are correct and I think that helped, at least in that game.

    Haley may have said it best, imo, in his post game interview.  He said, or something like this, “it is not entirely on me and Matthews but when we play well it makes our bigs better”.  But as been said many times on this board over the course of this season, when Matthews and Haley play well we are a better team and it gives not only our bigs a chance to be better but also our guards, particularly McBride, Sherman, McNeil, and Harler.

    To me Oklahoma is one of the toughest matchups for us.  they have 3 long players who can shoot from anywhere on the court.  It would be nice to have a team not hit above their averages against us.  Seems like during this recent stretch where we lost so many games it was a combination of us not playing well and also of the other teams playing a bit better than they typically play.  Time for that to even out.

    in reply to: Post Season Rotation #113982

    CFE I care not whether you agree with an opinion I have or don’t.  And if you disagree with the what I suggest feel free to suggest something else.  And if you don’t like the topic here there are others for you to peruse.  But I’m a Mountaineer.  And Mountaineers are always free.  I don’t need you or anyone else who is not an owner of this board to tell me how to think or act on this board.  Understood?

    nice win by the mountaineers.  Pitching only gave up 4 hits and 4 walks in 11 innings while fanning 13.  Only gave up 3 earned runs in 29 total innings against Mercer in the 3 games.  That’s a 0.93 ERA for the series.  Not sure how good Mercer is but they were 11-1 heading into their games against WVU.  You can’t be too bad with an 11-1 record.  I thought the baseball team might be a step back from last year’s team after losing so much talent.  Now I starting to think (hope) they might actually be a bit better.  Will know more obviously as they get more games under their belt, especially B12 games.  I think several of the B12 teams are ranked in the top 25 of various polls.

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