‘Ginger, Get The Portal’

West Virginia safety Alonzo Addae (4) makes a sensational diving interception

MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — Her name is Kim Webster, but you probably know her as Ginger from the role she played on the television hit series “The West Wing.”

You know, as in “Ginger! Get the popcorn!”

Since then, this proud West Virginia University alum has branched out into producing and won some prestigious awards while remaining a huge fan of her alma mater’s sports teams.

Like so many of them, she is frustrated.

This is what Kim Webster tweeted on Wednesday after Mountaineer defensive end Jeffrey Pooler became the latest player to enter the transfer portal:

She is not alone. Go to Twitter, Facebook, Instagram … doesn’t matter. WVU fans are up in arms, believing the transfer portal is making it almost impossible for them to put together teams of championship quality.

The problem is, they may be wrong.

Yes, we know, it lost three defensive starters with Pooler, cornerback Dreshun Miller and star safety Tykee Smith.

When you consider that All-Big 12 defensive lineman Darius Stills and all-Big 12 linebacker Tony Fields II also are gone from the defensive unit which was No. 4 in the nation last year, it is difficult to accept that the Mountaineers will be capable of maintaining the same level of play from a year ago.

But if one were to delve a little bit deeper into the situation, one might see matters in a different light.

Players transferring is not a bad thing and WVU has benefited over the years as much as anyone from transfers.

Think about the quarterback position. You can go back to Jeff Hostetler, who helped Don Nehlen establish the program that now is highly respected, to see how much a transfer can help a school … and Hostetler came over from rival Penn State.

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If you go back over the last seven years, quarterbacks who transferred into West Virginia have thrown for 24,478 passing yards for the Mountaineers. That is 99% of the passing yards over the last seven years.

The names are memorable … Clint Trickett, Skyler Howard, Will Grier, Jarret Doege.

And last year, when Doege had a first half in the Liberty Bowl against Army, he was rescued by transfer QB Austin Kendall, who rallied the Mountaineers to a win.

Not sure where WVU would have been without those transfers, but certainly wouldn’t be where they are today.

Transfers have brought life to WVU, not been a death penalty. Tony Fields II, expected to go in the NFL draft this weekend and last year’s leading tackler, came from Arizona.

As did the team’s second top tackler, safety Alonzo Addae, who transferred in from New Hampshire, of all places.

This year’s roster is filled with key transfers or players recruited out of junior college — Doege, Addae, defensive end Taijh Alston, wide receiver Isaiah Esdale, offensive linemen Doug Nester, John Hughes and Ja’Quay Hubbard, wide receiver Sean Ryan, kicker Tyler Sumpter and the man who well may have the same impact on the defense as Fields did, his former Arizona teammate, safety Scottie Young.

West Virginia receiver Isaiah Esdale (88) cradles the winning touchdown pass over the outstretched arem of TCU's Vernon Scott (26)
West Virginia receiver Isaiah Esdale (88) cradles the winning touchdown pass over the outstretched arm of TCU’s Vernon Scott (26)

What’s happened is that many believe WVU is getting hit harder than other schools and that’s only partly true. WVU has had 17 players enter the portal this year and had only three players transfer in, but one of them is a key addition in the offensive line in Doug Nester from Virginia Tech.

Here is the breakdown on the football transfer portal in the Big 12:

— Kansas, which has had a coaching change and has been the league’s bottom feeder, had 23 players transfer out and just 3 transfer in.

— TCU had 19 players transfer out and four in.

— Oklahoma had 17 players transfer out but did lure seven players.

— Texas Tech has lost 16 players in the portal but has taken eight players from it

— Kansas State lost 14 players and picked up seven.

— Texas lost 13 players and gained seven.

— Iowa State lost eight players and has had only one transfer in.

— Oklahoma State had eight transfer and picked up five.

— Baylor lost seven players and replaced them with five from the portal.

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    MORGANTOWN, W.Va. — Her name is Kim Webster, but you probably know her as Ginger from the role she played on the television hit series “The West Wing.
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    #145878

    It’s only a bad thing if you feel your program is losing a quality player for no apparent reason (which we have).  The Portal has created a “free for all” and trashes any kind of player commitment.

    The NCAA is a joke and this is the perfect example. For most of us, a weekend in Morgantown for a football game is a very expensive endeavor; if you think attendance was bad before – just wait and see what it’s like in a few years.

    #145879

    Is 17 out the right number? Thought it was a few more.
    In any case, losing that many kills bench strngth. You can never replace that many with the yearly cap of 25. Some of those transfer outs could have developed into good 2 deep players.

    7 teamw with double digit out with 3 pushing that number. And your numbers may be a little low. How does the NCAA reconcile this? 85 toyal will be a pipe dream if Portal rules aren’t changed.

    Nice try to put a positive spin on a bad situation for most teams.

    #145913

    Maybe the new policy for WVU should be a heavy emphasis on recruiting from the portal and JC ranks with a minimum on high school recruiting! The portal would give you a little more maturity and knowledge of their abilities and knowledge that they wouldn’t be transferring out? The JC would also give the maturity and experience that would have to be developed with high schoolers!

    #145918

    Tony, IMO that will be the new norm in recruiting for a lot of programs.  Works as long as you can pick off the best of the best in the JC’s and Portal along with keeping your highest rated HS recruits.

    Coaches that continue to recruit only HS kids may get left behind.  As those kids develop they will continue to hit the Portal and leave a hole in the program that they leave behind.

    #145924

    This portal problem was predictable. Loyalty is frowned upon and its all about “me”. The NCAA for all that it says it does has perpetuated this crap. As have “agents” who would sell their daughters for a name to capitalize on. Love the Eers but it will be an uphill struggle to keep talent for any length of time.

    #145926

    Right you are Rangerabell, NCAA is at the heart of this and they just do not care to do the hard things and fix it.

    #145927

    The NCAA is a corrupt and largely useless organization.   It needs to be dissolved and rebuilt from the ground up with the student athlete as its primary concern.

    #145928

    This we absolutely agree on.  Emphasize “Student” Athletes.  NCAA has walked away from that part of the mission of Universities.  If recruits and any player don’t regard the term student athlete as reason they get a scholarship then they don’t belong in school.  One and dones should be just done.   The NCAA needs to do their job instead of being ………  insert any sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, misogynist term you want.  …….

    #145930

    The problem as we are all aware is money. Most schools in Div 1 don’t have the moral compass to stand against the NCAA and many athletes won’t because eventually the athletes will win the “pay me” battle. The field will never be level as the Clemsons, Bama’s, Oregons, ect will have HUGE resources. This battle wont be won with morals, integrity, honor or commitment. Few schools actually have that and we damned sure know the NCAA doesn’t. It will become a mercenary market. Wait…..its close to that now.

    #145932

    I agree with that as well Ranger, look at how many times schools have swept large numbers of sexual assault, pedophilia, and other atrocities under the rug in the name of winning,  aka money

    #145943

    The portal is a problem everywhere, Ohio State just lost a receiver to Bama, But it makes no sense to me, If you can’t make the two deep at Ohio State, How can you make it at Bama?

    #145944

    Its more than the NCAA. Coaches and agents are whispering sweet nothings in their ears telling them “oh yea, play there and your stock will go up”, “your behind a stud, you have to show case yourself somewhere else, I know This guy who will pick you up”. The whole damned system is broken and it wont get fixed because the Universities dont really want to fix it. It takes moral courage and its sadly absent in colleges. And the NCAA is a bunch of idiots and money grubbing thieves.

    #145964

    Ta Da !!!!!  I’ve said it since the Portal was born.  Portal has its consequences.  We will see more and more transfers every year.  More and more from players that are in the 2 deep.  One time transfer is not a fix.  Guys will transfer 1 time before they get their degree then it’s open season.  1 time after the SO year and 1 more time after they get the degree.

    At least the NCAA put a time limit on going into the Portal.  FB and BB is May 1.  Didn’t see where it said you couldn’t transfer after that, but the 1 time transfer was for that date.  Maybe KK or Greg could enlighten us.

    As Ranger says, I long for the days of  morals, integrity, honor or commitment. …… but they are long gone in this me first WOKE society.  And Morals have long since been abandoned by the NCAA and replaced by money.

    #145965

    Good lord I hate that term……woke. Ive lost friends over that word. Course I wont miss them if they were that pliable in their integrity.

    #145987

    I long for the days of  morals, integrity, honor or commitment. …… but they are long gone in this me first WOKE society.  And Morals have long since been abandoned by the NCAA and replaced by money.

    AGREED, I guess I can start to follow Army, Navy and Air Force.

    #146004

    At least the NCAA put a time limit on going into the Portal. FB and BB is May 1. Didn’t see where it said you couldn’t transfer after that, but the 1 time transfer was for that date. Maybe KK or Greg could enlighten us.

    There is not a deadline or a time limit for entering the portal. Anyone can do so at any time.

    However, in order to be eligible for the one-time transfer exception, which allows players to transfer once without having to sit out a season, players must enter the portal by July 1 of this year.

    Next year, the deadlines will be May 1 for fall and winter sports, and July 1 for spring sports.

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    #146008

    You guys do realize that putting money and me-first (self-interest) is at the heart of capitalism.  It’s what drives capitalism.  You might want to define woke and explain how it relates to the NCAA because I’m having a hard time understanding what you’re trying to say.

    #146009

    Agree with Oldguy

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