Holgorsen/Houston Interest?

Holgorsen/Houston Interest?


Following a depressing end to the 2018 football season, reports are again beginning to build around West Virginia head coach Dana Holgorsen and another position in the state of Texas.

A few weeks ago, a report from Lubbock indicated a potential match between the eight-year WVU veteran and Texas Tech, but that turned out to be largely smoke and practically no flame.

West Virginia head coach Dana Holgorsen eyes the scoreboard

Today, multiple sources report that Holgorsen is now on the radar of the Houston Cougars, who were destroyed 70-14 by Army in this year’s Armed Forces Bowl. Holgorsen, with Texas coaching ties that include a stop as the offensive coordinator at Houston in 2008 and 2009, continues to pop up in conjunction with some of these jobs, although the level of interest on either side is difficult to gauge.

Houston, after creating a good deal of buzz in 2015 with a 13-1 record under head coach Tom Herman, has declined since. Herman put up a very good 9-3 record in 2016 before leaving prior to the team’s Las Vegas Bowl appearance to take the job at Texas. He was replaced by Major Applewhite, ironically a former Texas quarterback, who lost the 2016 bowl game, then oversaw seasons of 7-5 in 2017 and 8-5 this year, with both again capped by bowl losses.

That occurred against the backdrop of Houston president Renu Khator’s statement, who said around the time of Applewhite’s hiring that “winning is defined at the University of Houston as 10 and 2. We’ll fire coaches at 8 and 4.”

Applewhite is reportedly on the chopping block according FootballScoop, among others, but there are again some interesting bits of information in regard to potential interest by the Cougars. Applewhite obviously didn’t reach the 10-2 standard, as his record is 15-11 over two seasons, but Holgorsen’s isn’t in that range either. His 61-41 record in his eight seasons as West Virginia’s head coach averages out to 7.6 wins and 5.1 losses per year, just about the same averages that Applewhite (7.5-5.5) has recorded. He does have two bowl wins to Applewhite’s zero, but also has five postseason losses, including a current streak of three in a row.

Since moving to Conference USA in 1996 and then the American in 2013, Houston has finished with ten wins just four times. Art Briles (2006) Kevin Sumlin (2009, 20011) and Herman (2015) are the only coaches to have done so.

Holgorsen’s buyout, should he choose to leave, would not be prohibitive. Beginning Jan. 1, his buyout number total owed to the University drops to just $1 million from its current $2.5 million total.

Holgorsen’s salary for the upcoming 2019 season is $3.7 million — more than triple the amount of Applewhite’s reported $1.5 million salary. It seems unlikely that Holgorsen, unless he is extremely unhappy at West Virginia, would be willing to take a significant pay cut to go to Houston, leaving the question of whether or not the Cougars would be willing to up their coaching budget to that degree. They obviously were unable to participate in the Herman salary auction, which wound up with him getting a five-year contract at $5 million per year with the Longhorns.

According to a WVU official, no notification requests have been made to West Virginia pertaining to any potential discussions over any new coaching positions. That is required by Holgorsen’s most recent contract extension, which was signed on Dec. 2, 2016.

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  • #78166

    Holgorsen/Houston Interest? Following a depressing end to the 2018 football season, reports are again beginning to build around West Virginia head coa
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    #78170

    One question: Writing on the wall? And one observation: Tiny Houston (regarding the CFB landscape) having a “standard” of 10-2? Where is WVU’s standard? (OK, three questions 🙂 )

    #78171

    Heard the rumors a couple days ago but didn’t put any stock in them.

    Interesting and depressing times around WV football.

    #78182

    First, I think the UH president making that statement was pretty dumb. Sure, everyone aspires to that level. And maybe Houston can be a perennial ten win team in the American. But to put it out there like that, you’re going to get hung with it. How can she or UH justify hiring anyone that doesn’t have that standard in their background?

    Second, this could still be one of the planted items that is designed to stir interest, or to be used as ammunition when the time for coaching negotiations come around again. HCDH’s contract has three years left, so we are approaching that. I have no evidence that this is the case here, but it has happened in the past.

    Finally, I think it’s a bad idea to put out standards of this type. Like mission statements, etc., these can be either very vague, and thus kinda worthless, or very specific, which can paint you in a corner. If UH’s next coach goes 8-4, 10-2 and 9-3, is he going to get fired?

    #78191

    First of all, the 8-4 and you’re fired statement was beyond stupid.
    Next, is Houston in the position to buy out 3 years of Holgs contract?
    Then will Houston get into the big boy realm of $4M+ for a HC?

    None of the above makes sense.

    Now ….. Would HCDH like to move back to TX to take any HC job? Well, if he doesn’t have a job paying $3.7M in WV he would look at just about any HC job there ….. or any OC job to be quite frank. But he does have a job here. May not be getting the results we want, but he’s not yet on the proverbial hot seat ….. at least not yet. May be a little warm, but not hot.

    #78202

    I’m fine with him leaving.

    #78215

    He’s not leaving. So we need to be fine with him recruiting this season and calling plays next. I doubt he finds an OC. He should find a DC. Just my armchair QB thoughts. Not a fan of the D scheme we’ve run for the last so many years.

    #78226

    I don’t think he’s leaving either.   I don’t think Houston is willing to spend that kind of money on a coach who hasn’t really accomplished much yet as a HC.   It just wouldn’t make much sense.  Anyway, it doesn’t really interest me all that much because it is highly unlikely Dana will be our HC in 2020.

    #78297

    Ok, I HOPE he goes.

    #78298

    I wouldn’t mind the move.I don’t think he is HC material.He cannot control his emotions.This was supposed to be THE season and it ended like every other season.He’s had his shot.He’s barely .500 overall since taking the job.There’s nothing that indicates that he has moved the program forward.Please Dana Texas is calling.

    #78299

    With what looks like a rebuild on offense with a new QB and new WRs, I wouldn’t be surprised with the timing of him bolting.

    #78300

    The Dana haters can’t wait for him to leave so that they can hate the new WVU coach who doesn’t go 12-0 and win the national title.

    #78307

    The Dana haters can’t wait for him to leave so that they can hate the new WVU coach who doesn’t go 12-0 and win the national title.

    Blah.Blah.blah….things have not changed a bit here..same auto responses.Nobody said anything about hating anyone.

    #78319

    If you want to see haters, to over to the 247 board. Rivals is much worse. It’s a dumpster fire over there, one more than the other with all of the jackwads hating not only Dana but most of the players.

    Be thankful that most of the posters here are civil.

    #78320

    The inflammatory rhetoric that appears so often on Mountaineer fan websites, and others too no doubt, has always disturbed me.  It makes an intelligent conversation almost impossible.  For example, if you disagreed with Will Grier’s decision to skip the bowl game, you were a “Grier hater.”  If you think Dana’s performance as HC (so far) has been pretty average, you are a “Dana hater.”  (Just for the record, I hope he stays because starting all over could very well  be a mess.  I do predict, however, that his time at WVU is ending next year).  Basher is another word that comes up often, and is equivalent, I suppose, to hating.  If you have any questions about any of Huggins’ decisions, you are a “Huggs basher,” for example.  All of this heated rhetoric is the opposite of thinking.  I come to this site to post my opinions because I got tired of this kind of crap on another site.  Hate rhetoric permeates our society, in our politics, in our religion, on the radio, on the internet, so I guess there’s nothing that can be done to stop people from recklessly using words like hate and hater.  But, you should at least realize that you make yourself sound stupid when you do, and sounding stupid is not an effective way to present an argument.

    #78323

    Personally I think Dana is gambling with his job again. This time he might lose and wish he had folded.

    #78356

    The inflammatory rhetoric that appears so often on Mountaineer fan websites, and others too no doubt, has always disturbed me. It makes an intelligent conversation almost impossible. For example, if you disagreed with Will Grier’s decision to skip the bowl game, you were a “Grier hater.” If you think Dana’s performance as HC (so far) has been pretty average, you are a “Dana hater.” (Just for the record, I hope he stays because starting all over could very well be a mess. I do predict, however, that his time at WVU is ending next year). Basher is another word that comes up often, and is equivalent, I suppose, to hating. If you have any questions about any of Huggins’ decisions, you are a “Huggs basher,” for example. All of this heated rhetoric is the opposite of thinking. I come to this site to post my opinions because I got tired of this kind of crap on another site. Hate rhetoric permeates our society, in our politics, in our religion, on the radio, on the internet, so I guess there’s nothing that can be done to stop people from recklessly using words like hate and hater. But, you should at least realize that you make yourself sound stupid when you do, and sounding stupid is not an effective way to present an argument.

    Post of the millennia!!!

    #78359

    I have supported every other WV coach against critics. But not him. I’m not a “hater”. Supported every other WV coach. Never liked him. Don’t see supposed progress he has made. See the same old flame out at end of year. Even if a transition would create immediate potential problems it would be worth it. I hope he chooses to go.

    #78363

    Unless Shane and Dana can come to some kind of an agreement on an extension I think he is out the door. Word is they couldn’t agree prior to the Houston vacancy on an extension. Houston has the potential to pay big bucks to get a P5 coach. They have fertile recruiting grounds. Dana still has some kind of a gig with a radio station that he has done for a few minutes each week. My question would be has this gone to far already to walk it back. I think Houston pays the $1 million buyout and it is announced tomorrow at 4 pm.

    #78366

    From all the bobblehead tweets, it’s a done deal.

    We’ll be OK no matter what.

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