The Film Room: West Virginia Mountaineers – Oklahoma State Cowboys


The Film Room: West Virginia Mountaineers – Oklahoma State Cowboys


Without question, this trip down the concrete stairs to our cinder-block room next to the boiler is a tough one. But with some old-school grit, we’re tackling this trip to the Film Room.

It might seem a bit odd to start off a game featuring 86 points with a non-scoring kickoff return, but big plays in this phase of the game have been reduced drastically this year with the new fair catch rule and the bonus of a spot at the 25-yard line for that call. So, this one stood it.

West Virginia gets decent placement with the kick, putting it just inside the right hashmark and down to the four-yard line. That helps the coverage team cut the field down, with the defenders swinging like a gate toward the hash and the sideline in order to pin the returner to one side of the field. Unfortunately, WVU overswings a bit. Only three defenders are to the left of OSU’s Chuba Hubbard as he heads up the field, and just one decent block is needed to spring him into the open field. Kudos to WVU kicker Evan Staley, who cut down the angle and managed to stay with Hubbard enough to knock him out of bounds.

Why is this important? WVU faces the best return game in the league this week. Get out of line like this against the Sooners, and it’s going to be a 96-yard return, not a 36-yarder.


Here comes a triptych of Will Grier runs. Did the limited success on this first one, which gained two yards only after a nifty move by Grier, lead to the call on third and one in the third quarter, which we’ll look at in a moment? Head coach Dana Holgorsen characterized that latter call as “not us”.

OSU covers this play pretty well. It adjust to the motion with a safety flying up, the end crashes down on the handoff, and the backers are flowing to the right as soon as the play gets underway. There’s just not much here to justify a similar action later in the game, even if it is from a different formation.


This QB sneak just doesn’t add up. While the black and yellow lines make it look as if it’s a yard or less, it seemed like more, at least from my vantage point on the field. The big key, though, is that Oklahoma State has a defender in both A gaps, between West Virginia’s center and guards. If one of those gaps is open, or someone is head up on the linemen, that’s an opening that can usually be exploited via the sneak. In this case, it’s not there.

With that advantage closed, West Virginia’s offensive line is forced to wedge out space for Grier to move the ball at least a yard and a half from his position under center. WVU’s line has improved in several areas over the course of the last month, but straight ahead power blocking isn’t one of them. The expectation that they should do so wasn’t the best use of the Mountaineers’ resources.

Finally, although OSU isn’t in a classic goal line defense, with six or seven big bodies on the line, it did have eight players within a couple of yards of the ball, including the motion defender. One of the others, the right defensive end, crashes down before Trevon Wesco, lined up in the backfield, had the chance to get to him. Wesco would have been better positioned as a classic tight end on the line, where he could have sealed off that edge. Instead, he’s reduced to futilely trying to push Grier through a pile of about a ton of Cowboy defenders.


Holgorsen often says he isn’t concerned with turnovers so much as he is with points scored off them. With the Mountaineers holding a 4-1 edge in the former, they should have had a healthy advantage in the latter. Instead, the margin was just 13-3 in favor of WVU, as OSU killed off one entirely and held the Mountaineers to field goals on two others. If West Virginia changes one of those field goals to a TD, it would have only needed a field goal, rather than a touchdown, on its final possession of the game.


Which leads us to . . . the fumble.

We can debate all day whether Grier lost control of the ball before he touched down, or whether or not there was enough evidence to overturn the original call. The important thing here, though, is the play call itself. Although it looked like a zone read, WVU players and coaches said afterward that it was a straight QB run, and that it didn’t work because OSU defended it differently than it had in past games.

That’s reasonable. But again, in that situation, is a designed QB run the best call? Did the fact that West Virginia had previously failed with the sneak turn it away from handing the ball off to Leddie Brown or Martell Pettaway?

Whatever the rationale, the Cowboys again had it covered from the get-go. the safety that was positioned at the four-yard line at the snap is flying downhill immediately, and Grier never has a chance.

This last is a classic second-guess, but if WVU had a pass called here, whoever got the inside route call to the middle of the field would have collected a pretty easy score, at there was more open prairie in the middle of the field than the westward migrants of the 1850s ever thought about crossing.


Now, about the tactics of the Oklahoma State defensive backs. They hugged and mugged Mountaineer receivers without mercy, and it took too long for WVU to fight back. David Sills finally shoved off mightily to get space for a fourth quarter reception, but by then it was too late.

This wasn’t a one-way street. The officials just didn’t call much of anything either way. There were zero holding calls in a game where 94 passes were thrown, and West Virginia got away with a couple of defensive pass interference plays of its own.

The takeaway here? WVU didn’t adjust to the (horrendous) way the game was being called.


If there was one play that epitomized West Virginia’s defensive frustration, it was this one. Coordinator Tony Gibson said his team played a different defense from the one that he wanted, but it wasn’t 100% clear where the breakdown occurred. Was the wrong thing signaled in, or was it misinterpreted by the defense? Or was a call made and then corrected, but not relayed?

Whatever the cause, the defense wasn’t aware of it, as none knew, or admitted, that there was supposed to be another coverage called. It sure looked like it here, as OSU rather easily converts a third-and-20 situation in the fourth quarter that leads to a touchdown. Change this to a punt, and the Mountaineers probably go home with a win.

WVU’s DBs make multiple mistakes here. Josh Norwood breaks forward after initially dropping deep. He doesn’t need to do that, as forcing the throw short, then rallying to tackle, is the idea here. Hakeem Bailey breaks off coverage on the sideline receiver, putting Dravon Askew-Henry in a quandry, with two receivers to cover, and both beyond the first down marker. Without knowing what was called, it’s difficult to single out a culprit, but two of WVU’s three defensive backs on that side of the field are well inside the line to gain, and still moving forward, when the pass was thrown.


We all understand injuries are part of the game. But WVU was again down to its fourth string middle linebacker in the second half after Shea Campbell, who twice was felled by stingers, finally had to come out of the game in the middle of the third quarter. No disrespect to anyone involved, but no team, not even Alabama, is going to be unaffected by such deep dives into the depth chart.


What else led to OSU’s offensive explosion in the second half? One reason is on display here. First, the Cowboys lined up in a four wide receiver set 45 times in the second half. Only six times did they have three or fewer, and all of those were in special situations, either short yardage for a first down or in the red zone. That had the effect of spreading the West Virginia defense, which was unable to contain the running lanes that resulted.

When the Cowboys put three wideouts to one side, it almost always did to to the boundary side, which had the additional effect of putting David Long out into an initial coverage spot, which negated his ability to cover the field and track down plays to the opposite side. These FSL formations were designed, as one coach put it, to render the best player on the defense useless, as they knew they couldn’t block him.

OSU is in the FSL here, and David Long is walked out in coverage. As the play develops, all three backers wind up in coverage, two with their backs to quarterback Taylor Cornelius, who strolls for an easy 17-yard gain.


 

We’ll end with a positive note, because we need it, ans suspect you do too. William Crest was back on kickoff returns alongside Tevin Bush. Although he didn’t get a return chance, it was good to see him at least get on the field. Crest was never able to forge a primary role for himself in that regard, but he was a great teammate and positive force in the locker room.

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  • #75080
    Kevin Kinder
    Kevin Kinder
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    The Film Room: West Virginia Mountaineers – Oklahoma State Cowboys Without question, this trip down the concrete stairs to our cinder-block room next
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    #75087

    Ccteam
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    Tough assignment this week. I agree linebacker injuries have to impact the defense, but the defensive end kept crashing down too. Surely they had to discuss it on the sideline. Maybe put a spy on the qb, anything but let him continue to rip off huge gains at will. If they do the same with Murray he will be making 50 and 60 yard runs, not 10 yard ones.

    #75089

    Ccteam
    Muskets: 86,614
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    Given the way the referees were allowing secondary to be very handy, it would have been nice to see more throws to tight ends and maybe Jennings ( the stronger, bigger receivers). The book on Sills has to be very plain now. Don’t let him run free. Get up on him and keep him off his route. It seems to bother him. Not a knock on him. Just a clear defensive strategy that will be a given.

    #75112
    Allen
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    Seems the officials were not calling obvious PI’s. But at the same time they did not call the push off. Sills should have played more aggressive and did a little more pushing off.

    #75129
    Butlereer
    Butlereer
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    Once again, another great breakdown of the game. Unfortunately you exposed our weakness. They just made adjustments on both O and D that we didn’t counter. Outcoached in the 2nd half by a wide margin their O over our D. We just laid an egg. That’s on the coaches.

    #75137

    wvucinci
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    I think, while our defense has issues, the problem this season (and last) has been the inconsistency of our offense. And I lay the blame for that at the feet of Spavital.

    #75138

    wvucinci
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    Not sure why but I have been unable to post for about the last 2 weeks. So I was not sure my post above would appear. But since it did let me expand on my comment a bit more.
    WVU has scored 88 points in the 3rd quarter this year. 55 of those came in our 1st 3 games. In both our losses we were held scoreless in the 3rd quarter. In the game we almost blew to TT we were held scoreless in the 3rd quarter. And in our 1 point victory over Texas, which we pulled out at the end of the game, we were held scoreless in the 3rd quarter.
    We do not need to score on every possession to win games. But our offense needs to help our defense by maintaining drives, flipping field position, and making first downs. Our defense makes enough stops and makes enough plays for us to win against the teams we have played this year.
    Some examples from the OSU game. On offense against OSU in the 2nd half we had 4 possessions that produced a grand total of 1 1st down. 3 of them ended with punts. 2 of those were 3 and out, 1 we got a 1st down on the 1st play and then went 3 and out. 1 possession occurred deep in OSU territory after we recovered an OSU fumble. we gained 1 yard in 3 plays and then kicked a field goal. another possession produced 66 yards and culmulated with an ill advised Grier end run where he fumbled and OSU recovered. At least he did not get injured that time. We had 1 nice 10 play 83 yard drive for a TD. The last possession ended when the game ended. Time out issue covered elsewhere. If I could wave my magic wand Spavital would be relieved of his offensive coordinator duties before I went to bed. Maybe he is suitable as a qb coach, others can chime in on that. But, imo, he is not coordinator material.

    #75142

    Ccteam
    Muskets: 86,614
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    Good point Cinci. The defense is not great, but it is what it is. The offense is wildly inconsistent.

    #75145

    wvucinci
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    So Cc, the question is, why?

    #75155

    Ccteam
    Muskets: 86,614
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    Poor at making in game adjustments. A tendency to take big risks over what the defense is giving. Only an average offensive line. An occasional brain fart by Grier. Bigger defensive backs who man handle WV receivers bothers them.

    #75165
    Butlereer
    Butlereer
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    OL has been the weak link. But the whole D has been suspect.

    #75189
    Kevin Kinder
    Kevin Kinder
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    Tough assignment this week. I agree linebacker injuries have to impact the defense, but the defensive end kept crashing down too. Surely they had to discuss it on the sideline. Maybe put a spy on the qb, anything but let him continue to rip off huge gains at will. If they do the same with Murray he will be making 50 and 60 yard runs, not 10 yard ones.

    Good point. I talked with a DE about it, and he said there were one or two missed assignments, but that the priority was to try to close off the inside running lanes for the OSU RB. IF you spy the QB, you take someone out of pass coverage, and OSU was already killing WVU with its WR screens. Not huge gains, but great setups for short yardage conversions. I should have included one of those in the Film Room.

    With Murray and OU, he’s done that to everyone. Without exception. Not sure how it can be expected WVU can stop him.

    #75192
    Kevin Kinder
    Kevin Kinder
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    THe one thing OSU did differently in the second half was to pinch down its interior defenders to try to close the running lanes Kennedy McKoy had in the first half.

    WVU did respond – to me that’s making an adjustment – in trying to go a little more perimeter and exploit the one-on-one coverage of the DBs. The latter, IMO, was the right call and an good choice, but WVU was unable to win those one on one battles. Some of that was due to officiating and the let them play way the game evolved. Some, I think, WVU’s players just didn’t handle well.

    SO, again from my putting together all the postgame talks I had, both on and off camera, WVU did adjust. It IDed the weakness. It was just unable to exploit it.

    This last goes way back, but a coach once told me there are 15 gaps or areas to cover on the field, and 11 people to cover them. So, there are always weaknesses. If you can’t exploit those, of if you can’t win one on ones if the defense plays pretty much 11 on 11, it doesn’t matter what you try. You are going to lose.

    I know this sounds like I’m totally blaming the players. Thats not the debate I am trying to start, though. I’m just not sure that this was a major coaching failure.

    #75196

    wvucinci
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    Then the conclusion from your analysis above is that WVU does not have the talent to make effective counter adjustments. Because the inability to score points in the 3rd quarter did not occur just in the OSU game, but in many others. But then we did have an 83 yard, 10 play drive in the 4th quarter. So I have a hard time getting my arms around the fact that we only have 1 or 2 effective drives in our arsenal in the 2nd half (frequently) but so many more in the 1st half (consistently).

    #75197
    Kevin Kinder
    Kevin Kinder
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    In some situations, yes, I agree. I thought WVU did well against some offenses and teams (like Texas Tech, where the talent gap didn’t exist as greatly).

    The overall third quarter problems, though, I don’t have an answer for. Is it the other team getting the jump on changes? Is it WVU getting complacent? I agree with you, it’s tough to understand when it happens on a consistent basis. Spavital did go through a list of things WVU has tried over the season to improve it, but none have worked.

    Maybe that’s still on the coaches.

    #75232

    NoPittyHere
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    Why not mercilessly blitz the QB? While I get the outs of that strategy, the upside, especially at home (as in tonight’s game), can have a devastating effect, especially on a young QB.

    As for the offense, why does the strategy necessarily have to change (seemingly a 180) after halftime? Is that a rule or something??? I mean, I get that there are halftime adjustments by the defense, but they make our offense guru look like a little girl in the process–and more than once, against teams that aren’t exactly lighting up NCAA statistics on the defensive side of the ball.

    I’m sorry, but this is a season where the coaching staff threw away two games in what should (at the least, could) have been an undefeated season to this point–and narrowly escaped throwing away one more.

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